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#589407 - 02/02/10 09:52 PM Re: Neue 11-Gang-Alfine [Re: Stocki]
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In Antwort auf: iassu

Darf man das so verstehen, daß du Kettenschaltungen prinzipiell im Verhältnis zu ihrer Leistung als überteuert ansiehst?

zumindest was den VK der höheren Gruppen im Verhältnis zum Herstellungspreis angeht

Über Herstellungskosten und die diesbezügliche Kalkulation traue ich mir mangels Faktenkenntnis kein Urteil zu. Was ich beurteilen kann, ist der Nutzwert einer XT Gruppe im Verhältnis zum Kaufpreis in meinem Gebrauch. Und den finde ich hervorragend. Mit fallen so einige Produkte ein, bei denen das nicht annähernd der Fall ist.
...in diesem Sinne. Andreas
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