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Off-topic #851630 - 08/05/12 12:02 PM Re: Germans Cycles, das wars [Re: ]
t_streng Commercial Participant Offline Posts: 61	In Antwort auf: hawiro In Antwort auf: t_streng [ ... ]leichter Stahlrahmen mit guter Dämpfung,[ ... ] Tja, dann war er seiner Zeit wohl einfach zu weit voraus. Ich habe noch keinen Stahlrahmen gesehen, bei dem der Konstrukteur irgendeine Art von Dämpfung realisieren konnte. Die bauen halt alle weiter ihren alten Diamantrahmen-Stiefel, der vertikal wg. Fachwerk-Konstruktion nicht nachgeben kann. German war nicht seiner Zeit voraus sondern hat einfach Ahnung von Rahmenbau/konstruktion. Werkstoff und Profil/Wandstärke haben da keinerlei Einfluss auf die Dämpfungseigenschaften. einfach mal draufsetzen und ausprobieren.
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Germans Cycles, das wars	Jim Knopf	07/03/12 08:58 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	pottkind	07/03/12 10:31 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Falk	07/03/12 10:55 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	HeinzH.	07/04/12 07:46 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	windundwetter	07/03/12 11:14 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	BaB	07/04/12 04:45 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Sandbiker	07/04/12 05:12 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	BeBor	07/04/12 06:41 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	superaxel	07/04/12 06:58 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Joese	07/04/12 07:20 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	superaxel	07/04/12 07:28 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Friso	07/06/12 07:10 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Banshee	07/06/12 07:36 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Friso	07/06/12 08:13 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	BeBor	07/06/12 08:34 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	Banshee	07/06/12 08:35 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	BigDevil	07/06/12 11:44 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	michael666	07/05/12 06:35 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	hopi	07/05/12 07:10 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Jojo64	07/05/12 08:19 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	MatthiasM	07/05/12 08:39 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	Jojo64	07/05/12 09:01 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	michael666	07/05/12 09:03 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Banshee	07/05/12 09:57 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	roul1	07/05/12 09:49 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	Jojo64	07/05/12 03:59 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	roul1	07/06/12 08:25 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	toddio	07/06/12 08:34 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	roul1	07/06/12 08:50 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	toddio	07/06/12 09:26 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	MajaM	07/05/12 09:51 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	BeBor	07/05/12 10:04 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Uwe Radholz	07/05/12 05:13 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Jojo64	07/06/12 10:06 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Freundlich	07/06/12 10:31 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	RuhrRadler	07/06/12 11:04 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Jojo64	07/06/12 11:11 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Banshee	07/06/12 11:17 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	aighes	07/06/12 11:30 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	RuhrRadler	07/06/12 11:44 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Jojo64	07/13/12 09:16 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	RuhrRadler	07/13/12 09:39 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Banshee	07/06/12 11:15 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	windundwetter	07/06/12 02:43 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	RuhrRadler	07/06/12 03:48 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	brotdose	07/06/12 04:04 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	RuhrRadler	07/06/12 08:03 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	aighes	07/06/12 04:10 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Martina	07/06/12 05:26 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Jojo64	07/13/12 09:19 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Banshee	07/06/12 06:35 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	aighes	07/06/12 11:28 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Daddy Langbein	07/06/12 03:23 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Martina	07/04/12 07:03 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Banshee	07/04/12 07:20 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	mgabri	07/04/12 07:32 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Joese	07/04/12 06:14 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Seltsamkeit	07/04/12 06:31 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	borstolone	07/04/12 06:46 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	roul1	07/04/12 07:42 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	haraclicki	07/04/12 08:18 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Freundlich	07/04/12 08:36 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Banshee	07/04/12 08:59 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	jutta	07/04/12 01:29 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	grüner fleck	07/04/12 12:13 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Freundlich	07/04/12 08:08 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	fahrstahl	07/04/12 10:25 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Banshee	07/04/12 10:38 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Joese	07/04/12 10:49 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Banshee	07/04/12 11:14 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Freundlich	07/04/12 11:22 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	roul1	07/04/12 11:30 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	toddio	07/04/12 11:35 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	iassu	07/04/12 12:06 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	Tobi74	07/04/12 12:20 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	Flying Dutchman	07/04/12 12:55 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Juergen	07/09/12 02:17 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	t_streng	07/09/12 02:31 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Strampeltier	07/09/12 03:16 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	mgabri	07/09/12 08:01 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	MikeBike	07/11/12 01:31 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	Juergen	07/11/12 03:35 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	Auberginer	07/11/12 05:34 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	BeBor	07/11/12 05:58 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	natash	07/11/12 06:05 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	DebrisFlow	07/11/12 06:06 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	BobbyPeru	07/11/12 07:16 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	Karl Drais	07/11/12 07:38 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	MikeBike	07/12/12 08:18 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Jojo64	07/04/12 03:58 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	haraclicki	07/04/12 05:09 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	nachtregen	07/04/12 06:48 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	michael666	07/05/12 06:32 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	BeBor	07/04/12 08:10 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	haraclicki	07/04/12 08:33 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Oldmarty	07/04/12 08:42 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	windundwetter	07/04/12 08:45 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	joscha	07/05/12 04:06 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Freundlich	07/05/12 04:40 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	slayerman	07/05/12 04:53 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	Freundlich	07/05/12 05:27 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	slayerman	07/05/12 06:30 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	Jim Knopf	07/05/12 05:38 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	Martina	07/05/12 05:59 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	Jim Knopf	07/05/12 06:24 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	cyclist	07/05/12 07:39 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	Klaus1	07/05/12 07:58 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	kettenraucher	07/05/12 06:13 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	Peter Lpz	07/05/12 07:03 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	Freundlich	07/05/12 08:54 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	FordPrefect	07/05/12 09:06 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	nachtregen	07/05/12 09:07 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	Martina	07/05/12 09:16 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	olafs-traveltip	07/06/12 08:49 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Banshee	07/05/12 09:56 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Peter Lpz	07/05/12 11:25 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Banshee	07/06/12 06:08 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Strampeltier	07/06/12 10:51 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	lf1976	07/06/12 11:47 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	aighes	07/06/12 12:05 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	FordPrefect	07/05/12 07:24 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	Uwe Radholz	07/05/12 08:11 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	FordPrefect	07/05/12 08:28 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	Martina	07/05/12 09:04 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	FordPrefect	07/05/12 09:19 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Sandbiker	07/04/12 09:32 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Banshee	07/05/12 06:04 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Martina	07/05/12 07:04 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	MatthiasM	07/05/12 08:09 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Tommes	07/05/12 09:05 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	t_streng	07/09/12 12:52 PM
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Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Martina	07/10/12 07:17 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	HelmutHB	07/10/12 12:00 PM
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Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	BaB	07/10/12 12:25 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	Banshee	07/10/12 12:53 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	t_streng	07/10/12 02:57 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	aighes	07/10/12 03:38 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	t_streng	07/11/12 10:21 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	windundwetter	07/09/12 07:06 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	t_streng	07/15/12 08:42 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	JohnyW	07/10/12 01:12 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Jojo64	07/13/12 09:56 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	MatthiasM	07/13/12 10:42 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	lufi47	07/13/12 12:48 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Oldmarty	07/13/12 01:05 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	MatthiasM	07/13/12 01:07 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Martina	07/13/12 12:54 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Jojo64	07/17/12 03:18 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Martina	07/17/12 03:49 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	rolf7977	07/17/12 05:03 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Martina	07/17/12 05:09 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	Toxxi	07/19/12 07:37 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Toxxi	07/19/12 07:36 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	Martina	07/19/12 07:50 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	kona	07/17/12 05:15 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	MikeBike	07/17/12 09:07 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	kettenraucher	07/05/12 02:17 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	skämt åsido !	07/05/12 03:27 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	globetrottel	07/06/12 04:22 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	jossi23	07/06/12 04:35 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	t_streng	07/09/12 01:09 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	haraclicki	07/09/12 01:30 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	t_streng	07/09/12 01:59 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Banshee	07/10/12 05:30 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	t_streng	07/10/12 10:01 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	mv.	07/19/12 12:48 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Banshee	07/19/12 05:46 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	mv.	07/19/12 08:22 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Juergen	07/19/12 08:34 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	Jojo64	07/23/12 01:45 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	kona	07/23/12 01:55 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	Oldmarty	07/23/12 05:12 PM
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Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	CliffordClavin	07/23/12 08:43 PM
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Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Toxxi	07/19/12 09:11 AM
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Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	t_streng	08/01/12 09:21 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	hawiro	08/02/12 07:53 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	t_streng	08/05/12 12:02 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	hawiro	08/05/12 09:53 PM
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Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	t_streng	08/06/12 07:35 AM
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Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	hawiro	08/06/12 10:49 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	t_streng	08/06/12 02:01 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	hawiro	08/06/12 09:00 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	t_streng	08/06/12 10:00 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	hawiro	08/07/12 07:56 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	t_streng	08/07/12 09:35 AM
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Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	t_streng	08/07/12 11:06 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	kona	08/06/12 10:50 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	Freundlich	08/06/12 12:34 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	kona	08/07/12 07:34 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	wattkopfradler	08/06/12 05:03 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	JoMo	08/06/12 11:51 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	t_streng	08/06/12 07:31 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	hawiro	08/06/12 09:04 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	t_streng	08/06/12 09:59 PM
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Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	JoMo	08/07/12 06:27 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	kona	08/07/12 07:03 PM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars Off-topic	JoMo	08/08/12 11:56 AM
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Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	kona	07/19/12 08:00 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	michael666	07/19/12 10:46 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	Tommes	07/19/12 11:02 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	BaB	08/07/12 07:36 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	kona	08/07/12 07:41 AM
Re: Germans Cycles, das wars	fahrstahl	08/07/12 07:54 AM
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