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#692197 - 02/10/11 10:28 AM Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? [Re: lezzet]
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Eine weitere Frage ist folgende: Ist es normal, dass beim ersten Mal fahren nach dem Nachspannen einige Male knackt? Ist das das, was man unter "die Speichen setzen sich" versteht?

Ja und Nein.
Mit zunehmender Speichenspannung steigt ja auch die Reibung der Speiche im Gewinde des Nippels und irgendwann beginnt die Speiche sich beim weiteren anziehen in sich teilweise zu verdrehen. Dann dreht man am Nippel, aber die äußere Umdrehung entspricht dann nicht genau dem Fortgang im Gewinde, die Speiche steht dann unter Torsionsspannung. Diese Spannung und wird sich dann irgendwann "entladen", das tut sie meist bei Belastung, also wenn man sich aufs Rad setzt und losfährt, dann macht es Pling wenn die Speiche sich zurückdreht und dabei den Speichennippel in der Felge mitdreht.

Um das zu vermeiden braucht es Erfahrung und mit ausreichend Erfahrung und Feingefühlt kann man z.B. die Speiche wieder von der Torsionsspannung entlasten, indem man den Nippel nach dem nach rechts drehen wieder kurz zurückdreht und dabei darauf achtet, ob sich das Gewinde auch wirklich bewegt, oder ob eben nur die Speiche zurückgedreht wird.
Man kann auch noch anders herangehen, z.B. durch Schmieren des Gewindes und dergleichen, aber damit kann man sich u.U. auch andere Probleme einhandeln.

Beim Laufradbau kommt dem Faktor Erfahrung eine große Bedeutung zu.
Dif-tor heh smusma! \\//_ - Lebe lang und in Frieden. Und für Radfahrer: Radel weit und ohne Platten.
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Speichenbruch -- Was nun? lezzet 02/09/11 09:04 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? Ziegenpeter 02/09/11 09:14 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? Andreas 02/09/11 09:18 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? Martina 02/09/11 09:20 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? thomas-b 02/09/11 09:24 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? JaH 02/09/11 09:32 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? lezzet 02/09/11 09:54 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? JaH 02/09/11 09:56 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun?  Off-topic thomas-b 02/09/11 09:58 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun?  Off-topic MatthiasM 02/09/11 10:04 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? Andreas 02/09/11 11:02 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? IngmarE 02/09/11 11:13 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? Job 02/09/11 12:21 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? iassu 02/09/11 12:22 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? lezzet 02/09/11 12:27 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? Martina 02/09/11 09:18 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? Andreas 02/09/11 09:24 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? thomas-b 02/09/11 09:26 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun?  Off-topic Andreas 02/09/11 11:04 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun?  Off-topic Martina 02/09/11 11:05 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? manfredf 02/09/11 07:28 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? lezzet 02/09/11 09:33 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? Andreas 02/09/11 09:28 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? Fahrradfips 02/09/11 09:30 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? Martina 02/09/11 10:03 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? LD51 02/09/11 09:31 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? thomas-b 02/09/11 09:32 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? lezzet 02/09/11 10:17 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? IngmarE 02/09/11 10:24 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? Toxxi 02/09/11 10:26 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? MatthiasM 02/09/11 11:27 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? hipster 04/27/11 01:23 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? F4B1 04/27/11 01:26 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? hipster 04/27/11 01:37 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? JaH 04/27/11 01:28 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? hipster 04/27/11 01:38 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? Toxxi 04/27/11 02:01 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? hipster 04/27/11 02:15 PM
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Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? hipster 04/27/11 02:45 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun?  Off-topic BaB 04/27/11 02:54 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? Gio 04/27/11 05:59 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? Toxxi 04/27/11 07:13 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? hipster 04/28/11 05:43 AM
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Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? macrusher 04/28/11 07:28 AM
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Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? macrusher 04/28/11 08:23 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? buche 04/28/11 08:28 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? BaB 04/28/11 08:32 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? macrusher 04/28/11 08:36 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? BaB 04/28/11 08:40 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? macrusher 04/28/11 08:41 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? hipster 04/28/11 11:29 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? manfredf 04/28/11 03:30 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? JaH 04/29/11 08:24 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? hipster 04/29/11 09:14 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? manfredf 04/29/11 10:42 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? Fahrradfips 04/28/11 08:36 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? iassu 02/09/11 09:36 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? lezzet 02/09/11 09:47 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? iassu 02/09/11 09:49 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? thomas-b 02/09/11 09:50 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? lezzet 02/09/11 09:57 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? JaH 02/09/11 09:51 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? iassu 02/09/11 09:52 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? MatthiasM 02/09/11 09:53 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? iassu 02/09/11 09:58 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? JaH 02/09/11 10:02 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? lezzet 02/09/11 12:12 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? iassu 02/09/11 12:14 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? lezzet 02/09/11 12:22 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? iassu 02/09/11 12:24 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? JaH 02/09/11 12:31 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? Job 02/09/11 12:41 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? lezzet 02/09/11 12:48 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? manfredf 02/09/11 07:19 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? Dieter67 02/09/11 07:59 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? lezzet 02/09/11 08:37 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? Claudius 02/09/11 08:39 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? IngmarE 02/09/11 08:55 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? Andreas 02/09/11 09:50 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? georg123 02/10/11 07:58 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun?  Off-topic IngmarE 02/10/11 09:19 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun?  Off-topic georg123 02/10/11 09:35 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun?  Off-topic IngmarE 02/10/11 09:50 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? lezzet 02/10/11 10:15 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? Speichenjockey66 02/10/11 10:21 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun?  Off-topic atk 02/10/11 10:25 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? JaH 02/10/11 10:28 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? IngmarE 02/10/11 10:42 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun?  Off-topic IngmarE 02/10/11 11:09 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? Falk 02/10/11 11:30 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? lezzet 02/10/11 12:00 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? iassu 02/10/11 12:04 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? lezzet 02/10/11 05:53 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? JaH 02/10/11 06:03 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun?  Off-topic georg123 02/10/11 06:07 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun?  Off-topic thomas-b 02/10/11 06:27 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? Wendekreis 02/10/11 06:34 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? iassu 02/10/11 09:14 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? Wendekreis 02/11/11 07:37 AM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? IngmarE 02/11/11 01:29 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? Wendekreis 02/11/11 02:01 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun?  Off-topic IngmarE 02/11/11 02:05 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun?  Off-topic Toxxi 02/11/11 02:21 PM
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Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? iassu 02/11/11 06:53 PM
Re: Speichenbruch – Was nun? Falk 02/11/11 07:50 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? HyS 02/11/11 08:45 PM
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Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun? IngmarE 02/11/11 02:38 PM
Re: Speichenbruch -- Was nun?  Off-topic JaH 02/09/11 12:54 PM
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