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#1270287 - 03/11/17 08:51 PM Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 [Re: ]
spiff
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Hallo,

ich fahre die Pinion P18 und kann folgendes sagen:

Im Stadtbetrieb mit wenig Zuladung ist die Abstufung sehr fein, es werden oft 2-3 Gänge übersprungen.

Der Kurbelabstand im Vergleich zur Kettenschaltung ist merkbar größer, die C-Linie hat einen etwas geringeren Kurbelabstand.

Das Gehäuse der C-Linie ist eine Magnesiumlegierung. Magnesium ist sehr korossionsempfindlich. Wenn das Rad auch im Winter genutzt wird sollte man das bedenken (nicht umsonst hat Pinion zuzätzlich zur dicken Pulverbeschichtung noch einen Schutzaufkleber auf das Gehäuse der C Linie aufgebracht, die P Linie braucht das nicht).

Auf Fahrradzunft wurde für die Rohloff ein besserer Wirkungsgrad als für die P18 ermittelt.

Für die Rohloff gibt es von einer kleinen Firma ein Zubehörteil damit man diese mit SRAM Bremmsschaltgriffen fahren kann. Wer sein Rad gerne mit Rennbügel fährt, für den ist das ein gefundenes Fressen. Zumal SRAM ja auch hydraulische Scheibenbremsen in Verbindunt mit Bremmschaltgriffen für den Rennbügel anbietet.

Viel wichtiger als die Frage P18, C12, oder vielleicht Rohloff finde ich auf einen Riemenantrieb zu setzen. Besonders bei Regenfahrten und Dreckfahrten habe ich immer ein Grinsen im Gesicht. Null Pflegeaufwand. Saubere Beine. Null Geräuschentwicklung schmunzel

Gruss spiff

Edited by spiff (03/11/17 08:56 PM)
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Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic Friedrich 03/05/17 09:33 PM
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Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic AndreMQ 03/05/17 10:31 PM
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Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic rafo_no 03/06/17 11:26 AM
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Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 TobiTobsen 03/05/17 08:33 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic TobiTobsen 03/06/17 12:37 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic AndreMQ 03/06/17 01:00 PM
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Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 kangaroo 03/06/17 04:07 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 JDV 03/06/17 04:26 PM
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Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic Juergen 03/06/17 05:47 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 JDV 03/06/17 09:44 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 Michael B. 03/07/17 06:02 AM
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Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic Uwe Radholz 03/06/17 08:00 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 MikeBike 03/08/17 06:50 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 Uwe Radholz 03/08/17 07:25 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic MikeBike 03/08/17 08:48 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic nachtregen 03/08/17 09:10 PM
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Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 spiff 03/11/17 08:51 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic TobiTobsen 03/11/17 09:21 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic spiff 03/13/17 10:19 PM
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Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic spiff 03/14/17 07:43 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic Langhals 03/14/17 11:32 PM
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Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic Böhmebiker 03/15/17 04:49 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic spiff 03/15/17 08:32 PM
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Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic ohne Gasgriff 03/22/17 11:25 PM
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Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic manfredf 03/23/17 09:01 AM
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Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 spiff 03/23/17 08:18 PM
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Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 spiff 03/23/17 10:40 PM
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Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic spiff 03/20/17 07:17 PM
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Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic derSammy 03/20/17 11:10 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic spiff 03/22/17 08:47 PM
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Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic spiff 03/23/17 08:24 AM
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