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#1272846 - 03/23/17 07:17 PM Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 [Re: ]
spiff
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Wieso Stahl? Die 13kg mit der P1.18 kommen z.Zt. mit den Tabellenwerten der Teile (darin Alu-Rahmen und Carbongabel) tatsächlich heraus...


O.K., ich dachte in dem von Dir verlinkten thread eingangs gelesen zu haben dass es um einen Stahlrahmen geht. Tja dann viel Erfolg.

Als ich mein Rad gekauft habe bin ich das Schwestermodell mit Rohloff auch gefahren. Bei oft diskutierten Punkten wie Geräuschentwicklung, Schaltgefühl etc. habe ich beide auf Augenhöhe gefunden. Ob es die große Entfaltung des Pinion Getriebes wirklich braucht, muss jeder für sich selbst entscheiden. Ich finde nicht zwingend. Wenn man in der Stadt schnell sein möchte kann man die Rohloff entsprechend bestücken, und vor der Radreise tauscht man das Ritzel. Der Aufwand ist sicherlich nicht hoch und man spart dauerhaft einiges an Gewicht zur Pinion. Ich musste mein Riemenrad auf der Nabe auch tauschen. Mit 32/28 musste man bei richtig hohen Geschwindigkeiten zu sehr strampeln, jetzt sind es 32/26. Gänge 1-4 nutze ich als Pendler auch an steilen Stücken nie.

spiff.

Edited by spiff (03/23/17 07:20 PM)
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Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 AndreMQ 03/05/17 07:57 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 sigma7 03/05/17 08:29 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 AndreMQ 03/05/17 08:48 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic Friedrich 03/05/17 09:33 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic cterres 03/05/17 09:46 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic AndreMQ 03/05/17 09:58 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic cterres 03/05/17 10:24 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic AndreMQ 03/05/17 10:31 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic AndreMQ 03/05/17 09:53 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 Frawie 03/05/17 10:00 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 AndreMQ 03/05/17 10:15 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 Friedrich 03/05/17 10:31 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 derSammy 03/06/17 06:43 AM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 Friedrich 03/06/17 07:43 AM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 AndreMQ 03/06/17 07:59 AM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 derSammy 03/06/17 08:33 AM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 AndreMQ 03/06/17 09:20 AM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 derSammy 03/06/17 09:37 AM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 AndreMQ 03/06/17 09:58 AM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 Hey 03/06/17 06:36 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 Uwe Radholz 03/06/17 09:21 AM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 AndreMQ 03/06/17 10:54 AM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic rafo_no 03/06/17 11:26 AM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 Falk 03/06/17 11:37 AM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 Friedrich 03/06/17 09:27 AM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 TobiTobsen 03/05/17 08:33 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic TobiTobsen 03/06/17 12:37 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic AndreMQ 03/06/17 01:00 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 Frawie 03/06/17 02:07 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 kangaroo 03/06/17 04:07 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 JDV 03/06/17 04:26 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 AndreMQ 03/06/17 04:46 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 cterres 03/06/17 06:08 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 AndreMQ 03/06/17 06:22 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic Juergen 03/06/17 05:47 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 JDV 03/06/17 09:44 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 Michael B. 03/07/17 06:02 AM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 JDV 03/07/17 10:06 AM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 AndreMQ 03/08/17 11:30 AM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 AndreMQ 03/08/17 04:10 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 Hey 03/06/17 06:39 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 AndreMQ 03/06/17 06:44 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 Hey 03/06/17 06:59 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 AndreMQ 03/06/17 07:15 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 ohne Gasgriff 03/06/17 11:25 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 AndreMQ 03/07/17 06:17 AM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic Uwe Radholz 03/06/17 08:00 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 MikeBike 03/08/17 06:50 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 Uwe Radholz 03/08/17 07:25 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic MikeBike 03/08/17 08:48 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic nachtregen 03/08/17 09:10 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic ro-77654 03/08/17 09:35 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 AndreMQ 03/08/17 09:45 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 Friedrich 03/08/17 09:59 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 AndreMQ 03/08/17 10:36 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 iassu 03/08/17 10:38 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 AndreMQ 03/09/17 01:00 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 spiff 03/11/17 08:51 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic TobiTobsen 03/11/17 09:21 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic spiff 03/13/17 10:19 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic derSammy 03/14/17 07:34 AM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic cterres 03/14/17 07:57 AM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic derSammy 03/14/17 09:59 AM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic spiff 03/14/17 07:22 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic Falk 03/14/17 10:03 AM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic max saikels 03/14/17 07:56 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic cterres 03/14/17 12:00 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic spiff 03/14/17 07:43 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic Langhals 03/14/17 11:32 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic TobiTobsen 03/15/17 12:57 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 AndreMQ 03/11/17 09:46 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 spiff 03/13/17 09:40 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 AndreMQ 03/14/17 10:21 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 MikeBike 03/13/17 11:53 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic cterres 03/14/17 12:28 AM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic MikeBike 03/14/17 11:56 AM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic cterres 03/14/17 12:02 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic TobiTobsen 03/15/17 01:15 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 Seeadler 03/06/17 06:51 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic Böhmebiker 03/15/17 04:49 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic spiff 03/15/17 08:32 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic spiff 03/15/17 08:38 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic ohne Gasgriff 03/16/17 01:47 AM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic spiff 03/16/17 12:27 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic ohne Gasgriff 03/16/17 08:12 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 AndreMQ 03/16/17 10:17 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 _Cumulus_ 03/17/17 07:35 AM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 AndreMQ 03/17/17 12:34 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 spiff 03/20/17 07:32 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 Falk 03/20/17 07:45 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 spiff 03/22/17 09:16 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 AndreMQ 03/20/17 09:45 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 Teveya 03/21/17 05:58 AM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 AndreMQ 03/21/17 06:46 AM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 spiff 03/22/17 09:01 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 AndreMQ 03/22/17 09:48 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 derSammy 03/22/17 10:16 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic ohne Gasgriff 03/22/17 11:25 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic AndreMQ 03/23/17 07:01 AM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 AndreMQ 03/23/17 08:29 AM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic manfredf 03/23/17 09:01 AM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic Falk 03/23/17 10:23 AM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic ohne Gasgriff 03/23/17 01:52 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 spiff 03/23/17 07:31 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 spiff 03/23/17 07:17 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 AndreMQ 03/23/17 07:42 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 AndreMQ 03/23/17 07:52 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 spiff 03/23/17 08:18 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 AndreMQ 03/23/17 09:43 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 spiff 03/23/17 10:40 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 AndreMQ 03/24/17 06:49 AM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 AndreMQ 05/21/17 09:18 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 9.81 09/11/17 05:16 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 AndreMQ 09/11/17 09:05 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 9.81 09/12/17 08:18 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 AndreMQ 09/12/17 10:22 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 AndreMQ 09/13/17 05:25 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18 9.81 09/13/17 07:21 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic spiff 03/20/17 07:17 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic ohne Gasgriff 03/20/17 07:43 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic derSammy 03/20/17 11:10 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic spiff 03/22/17 08:47 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic derSammy 03/22/17 09:41 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic spiff 03/23/17 08:24 AM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic ohne Gasgriff 03/22/17 09:43 PM
Re: Pinion C12/P12 vs. P18  Off-topic spiff 03/23/17 08:20 AM
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